I have something of a love-hate relationship with Facebook. It came out in my later college years and was awesome and useful, helping me keep in touch with old friends scattered at other colleges, organize meetings, and find people with shared interests. (“Hello, ludicrously attractive girl. I note that you list ‘The O.C.’ as one of your interests. As luck would have it, I’ve recently obtained the first season on DVD, if you’d like to watch it in my room.”)
Since then, Facebook introduced a bunch of features that effectively ruined the experience for me, from a feature that allowed other people’s farm animals to wander into my profile to a feature that allowed random websites to access information about me through my friends. But I still have a profile on there — rarely updated — because sometimes I have to use Facebook to access invitations or other junk that my friends have posted.

Oh, really? I can't wait to find out how much you think I'm worth, guy-I-think-I-knew-in-high-school.
I’m not the only one with these complicated feelings toward Facebook, of course; people who regularly use the site have far stronger emotions about it. And a common one of these emotions is the need to complain loudly about Facebook’s every last grammaticality issue.
When I was still on Facebook a lot, I remember people complaining about the fact that when someone hadn’t specified their gender, the system would say things like “Lenny Dykstra has updated their profile picture,” instead of his or her or some more awkward construction. A little later, the verb “unfriend” led to a disproportionately large amount of venom directed at social sites for creating a word that, really, they didn’t create.*
Now there’s a new complaint. Facebook has a “Like” button, which you can click to indicate that you like something, like a group or product. For instance, I just found out through this wonderful system that a friend I knew in Seattle a few years ago likes dried cranberries. (Me too, OMG!) But introducing a “Like” button introduces with it a linguistic quandary. What should you call it if you decide to not like something anymore? What if, for instance, your were disappointed with Taylor Swift’s new album and no longer wish to pledge your allegiance to her?
Well, Facebook has an “Unlike” button that you can press to stop formally liking something. That makes a lot of sense, right? Much like you might untie your shoes, unbutton your shirt, or unwrap your birthday present.
But oh no! Not to the grammar police! One fellow — a Yalie, I’d like to note — writes:
Mark Zuckerberg, ‘unlike’ is not a verb. At all.
And someone started a Facebook group to address unlike, writing:
Not wishing to be a pedantic f*cktard, so correct me if I’m wrong (I’m not), but surely the opposite of ‘Like’ is ‘Dislike’. ‘Unlike’ is an entirely separate preposition, meaning ‘dissimilar to’.
And Scott McGrew, a tech reporter for NBC Bay Area, registered similar displeasure with the word:
Once you click “like,” the button changes to “unlike.” But Merriam-Webster says “unlike” is defined as “a marked by lack of resemblance.” […] What Facebook should have used if they were looking to please the proper grammar-conscious is “dislike.” We contacted Facebook to ask about this egregious attack on English, fully expecting them not to comment. Or in Facebook-ese “uncomment.”
Alas, grammar police, your sirens are misguided. First off, I know that there is an extant form of unlike that is not a verb. But English allows for the same word to have multiple meanings, usages, and sometimes even different etymologies. My favorite example of this is mean, which has 12 entries in the Oxford English Dictionary, in four different parts of speech. Multiple meanings can be problematic when they lead to ambiguity, but verbal unlike won’t get confused with adverbial unlike.
Second, dislike isn’t appropriate for this situation (a point that some commenters made on the Facebook group’s wall and here). Both un- and dis- are prefixes that can be put onto verb to mean “to stop or reverse”, so either unlike or dislike could mean “to stop liking something”. But dislike already has a verbal meaning that would introduce ambiguity; stopping liking something is distinctly different from disliking it.** If you’re really being conscious of word meanings, as McGrew claims he’s trying to be, you’d surely not want to use dislike so cavalierly.
Third, unlike predates Facebook. The Oxford English Dictionary has an entry for unlike as a verb meaning “to give up liking; to cease to like”, complete with an attestation from 1761:
My heart is not in a disposition to love… I cannot compel it to like and unlike, and like anew at pleasure.
So it’s settled. I will unlike the next person I see disliking unlike.
—
*: First, Facebook uses “remove from friends” instead of “unfriend” or “defriend”, and it was their users (i.e., us) who introduced these words. Second, unfriend already existed (although it was rarely used) before Facebook, as in this 1659 attestation from the OED: “I hope, Sir, that we are not mutually Unfriended by this Difference which hath happened betwixt us.” In fact, there are around 4,000 hits for unfriended in Google Books before Facebook’s founding in 2004.
**: As a Michael Jackson fan said when asked about Justin Bieber: “I don’t like him, but I don’t dislike him.”
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November 18, 2010 at 1:40 pm
mike
>”Not wishing to be a pedantic f*cktard, […]”
Oops! Too late. :-)
(Not you, Gabe.)
November 18, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Rebecca
It’s so agonizing that this even needs to be explained. If people would just stop to think instead of just printing: “invalid syntax / does not compute” like a gosh danged fecking robot.
November 18, 2010 at 3:29 pm
Alex
It’s not so much that ‘unlike’ isn’t a verb, it’s that it doesn’t make sense in the old sense of ‘like’. Liking in this context has changed from a stative verb to a dynamic one, where un- actions actually work. It’s funny how people didn’t notice a change in the usage, but form immediately grabbed them.
By the way, could you say something like “he was unliked at school” or “unliked by many, brussels sprouts are…”?
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November 18, 2010 at 10:23 pm
CaitieCat
By the way, could you say something like “he was unliked at school” or “unliked by many, brussels sprouts are…”?
Both of these are grammatical for me, much as “unloved” would be.
November 19, 2010 at 8:13 am
dearexgirlfriend
as much as I love grammar…it astounds me that so much attention has been paid to this! Congrats on freshly pressed.
November 19, 2010 at 8:15 am
Mikalee Byerman
So will you unlike the first person who “likes” your post? ;)
I have major grammar issues as well — even blogging about them with some regularity, among the other bat-sh!t crazy things in my life — and the whole Facebook thing makes me crazy.
I mean, when did “friend” become a verb? Or “unfriend”? (or is it “defriend”? *sigh*)
But I personally do not dislike the unlike…
;)
November 19, 2010 at 8:17 am
Maggie
I have a love-hate (mostly hate) relationship with Facebook, too – for a lot of these same reasons. Congratulations on getting Freshly Pressed!
November 19, 2010 at 8:19 am
runtobefit
Unfortunately, it only serves to dumb down society. It helps you stay in contact with friends, but it also serves to widen the gap between living your life and making it seem interesting on a computer.
November 19, 2010 at 8:28 am
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November 19, 2010 at 8:32 am
Melme
I’ve always loved the dynamics of living languages. I think it’s funny how many people get in a tizzy over stupid “usage” issues that boil down to changes in the culture. I bet these same people us “google” as a verb without batting an eye. New usage 4TW! ;)
November 19, 2010 at 8:33 am
Melme
Oops!That should have been “same people use” not “us”.
November 19, 2010 at 8:33 am
auntbethany
Idea: introduce a “LOATHE” button.
Use: you can no longer just stand on one side of the fence…either you like someone, or you utterly loathe them. Other ideas include “WISH TO SMITE,” “ABHOR,” and “IMMENSELY DETEST.”
November 19, 2010 at 8:40 am
Angus Miranda
I never really use the Like button since I prefer typing comments to show that I really like something. It’s a little more sincere, don’t you think?
November 19, 2010 at 8:45 am
Kat-Cat
Really? Just a simple word had displeased so many people? I like the simple definition of “to cease to like” the most. But this word doesn’t really bother me as much as all the FB games, with all the invites I get from friends to join their restaurant or farm their field.
Congratulations on getting on Freshly Pressed
November 19, 2010 at 8:54 am
Joel Sullivan
Does this kind of stuff really bother people?
November 19, 2010 at 9:12 am
Steve
“Keg stands — will protect us from any possible encroachment by übernetwork Facebook.”
November 19, 2010 at 9:46 am
Brea
Thanks for this post. I realize that some people have to be so anal that they must tear down other people’s usage of the English language to its basic component parts and analyze it until you can no longer recognize what the original meaning was supposed to be.
They’re pedantic f*cktards.
Because f*cktard is a legitimate word. So is unfriend, and unlike, and internetz. Once enough people use it, it becomes legitimate, and eventually, ends up in some dictionary, somewhere.
November 19, 2010 at 9:53 am
Anya
Word!
The key with the Facebook meaning of “unlike” is that you’re not starting from neutral. Meaning, you have to “like” something first, and then, to reverse that action, you can “UN” like it. In the same way as you can UNwind only after being wound, or UNtie after being tied.
So, if you click on “unlike”, you’re just bringing your feelings back to neutral on that certain topic/person/comment, whereas if there was a “dislike” button, you would be showing a negative feeling towards something, rather than expressing a return to neutrality.
November 19, 2010 at 10:01 am
CMStewart
Yet another reason I’m so glad I deleted my Facebook account. :)
November 19, 2010 at 10:26 am
y
whether it’s dislike or unlike, I ‘like’ your post! And I won’t ‘unlike’ it (I hope not.) :P
Congrats for being featured on Freshly Pressed.
November 19, 2010 at 10:49 am
jonlockett
Thanks for saying that, I so totally agree!lol
November 19, 2010 at 10:56 am
Summer
Oh! so its not wrong! I never really noticed all the fuss about “unlike”
November 19, 2010 at 11:18 am
Emily Jane
*Quietly slides Grammar Police badge under a magazine…*
November 19, 2010 at 11:30 am
hanna brooks olsen
I had a very long discussion in a bar with someone about whether or not it should be “unlike” or “dislike,” during which I argued that “dislike” conveys aversion, whereas “unlike” simply removes the presence of “liking.”
Great post, thanks for solving the debate!
November 19, 2010 at 11:34 am
Margaret
Great post. I agree with Anya about the Facebook version of “Unlike” is a secondary action that must be preceded by an active “Like”… In other words, you can’t unlike unless you first like, just as you cannot undo something that was never done!
I also agree that one of the strong (and interesting) aspects about the English language is the ease with which we can invent new words or alter the usage of existing ones.
For some added fun, take a look at how Chilean Spanish turns English adjectives into Chilean nouns. For example here you can go to “the shopping” (the first from shopping mall or center) or “Play baby,” which has nothing whatsoever to do with “playing house” but rather short for playing “baby futbol” (something akin to softball vs baseball).
November 19, 2010 at 11:56 am
jenniestevens
I can get behind the idea of “unlike” meaning “to cease to like,” but I think people get up in arms about it when they see other people using “unlike” when they actually mean “dislike.” I’m fine with creating new words, but I’m not fine with misusing new words when you actually meant that-word-that-already-exists.
November 19, 2010 at 12:29 pm
Matt
As an avid user of the website, I can safely say that I’m immensely irritated by people who get all up in arms about little stuff like this. It’s a colloquialism. Society adapts language to needs of its people. Get over it.
November 19, 2010 at 12:46 pm
notesfromrumbleycottage
Good researching skills. Loved that you found a reference from the 1700s. Congrats on being freshly pressed.
November 19, 2010 at 12:59 pm
Joanna Truman
Good to know!
November 19, 2010 at 1:00 pm
battlechicken
I would like to support auntbethany’s suggestion, and I put my support specifically behind “WISH TO SMITE.” I can already think of several opportunities for which this option would be absolutely perfect.
This is a great post, and congrats on being Freshly Pressed.
November 19, 2010 at 1:22 pm
WorstProfEver
Damn straight it’s valid. I’ve heard many people around me produce said utterance even without knowing squat about its history.
Like the blog, congrats on being pressed. And lemme tell ya, I used to be in Classics, which is one of the most bullheadedly prescriptivist disciplines there is, so I sympathize.
November 19, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Kathryn McCullough
So sad for the grammar police, that they can’t enjoy that the internet is speeding up the rate at which English is changing like no time since the Renaissance. And thank God Shakespeare got to play with the language before grammarians wrote most of our rules in the 17th Century. Would the folks who dislike “unlike” have liked or “unliked” what Shakespeare dared do in the 16th?
November 19, 2010 at 1:31 pm
Deanna
What a funny world we live in, that people rant about colloquialisms. So silly. Get with the times! Enjoyed your take on things.
I wonder how long until they add “unmarried”?
November 19, 2010 at 2:04 pm
My Camera, My Friend
Great post. I always considered facebook to have its own lingo or jargon, something not uncommon for social groups, individuals knowledgeable in a certain subject, or fan groups.
About the love-hate relationship, I’m with you on the facebook games. I find them annoying.
November 19, 2010 at 2:18 pm
acleansurface
Language evolves over time. Don’t fight it.
November 19, 2010 at 2:38 pm
wizardist
An appeal to your “their” :)
I’m not a fluent English speaker and when I first faced this “thier/them”, it was quite weird for me, too. Then I looked through some forums and found out that it’s a kind of so called political correctness or sexism-protective stuff. You can see the same thing at LiveJournal where it’s proposed to “Add THEM to friends” in the topbar.
Quite strange implementation ’cause most users define their sex and it’s not hard to use the sex value from DB or something else.
November 19, 2010 at 2:40 pm
enjoibeing
good post! im more a fan of writing in a response then “liking” because it seems more personal.
November 19, 2010 at 2:51 pm
gpeace
I believe your complaint is completely valid, however, the people you’re speaking of are complaining just for the sack of complaining! It works for the context of facebook – they need to deal with it.
November 19, 2010 at 3:42 pm
ryoko861
I sort of look at like this:
I click “like” because I like it. But maybe after awhile, I’m bored with “it” so I’m going to “unlike” it. I don’t “dislike” it, just tired of it. I still like it, but I’ve moved on.
There should be a “dislike” as well. For those stupid apps that are on the right hand side like “Brittany Spears Fan Page”. You should be able to “like” it or “disllike” it.
November 19, 2010 at 4:25 pm
prefab
I have to tell the truth for what I like or not. because it makes a person to get feedback on what he had written
November 19, 2010 at 5:01 pm
renxren
As a Facebook user I’d like my friends to know this too. Could you please give the Facebook buttion for easy sharing?
November 19, 2010 at 5:46 pm
Shanna VanNorman
wow, the O.C. thing actually worked, you must be smooth as rocks lol. I too have a love hate relationship with facebook, i always say facebook rules the world. But regarding the ‘like’ button, it’s really not that serious. I would never think to ‘unlike’ something…there are just too many beautiful fun things to do with my time, such as read your post, then to go back over silly actions.
CONGRATS ON BEING FRESH TO DEATH — WELL DESERVED BABAYYYY!
Much love,
Shan
November 19, 2010 at 7:38 pm
squeezehouse
I’m so conflicted. I do not think “unlike” is OK anymore than any of the other recent “evolutions” in language – like using “fewer” and “less” interchangeably – but I also do not use Medieval language so obviously I’ve bought into the notion that language must change over time. But where’s the line between “evolving” and just plain wrong? How do you know who is a F*cktard for insisting things be right and who is just stupid for not knowing what is right?.
November 19, 2010 at 8:36 pm
maryawrites
I just wrote about a similar issue about facebook myself. How come yours get to be freshly pressed???
Just kidding! :)
November 19, 2010 at 8:51 pm
MeltingCloud
I never even realised Facebook used the phrase ‘remove friend’ because whenever this topic arises, I instinctively say “I UNfriended him/her.” Although English is my first language, the huge number of people who use Facebook with English as there second language would probably not bring up this issue at all. Why? I’d say its probably because languages are meant to be understood, mainly in speech, which is why it isn’t the biggest crime in the world to misspell or definitely not required to know all basic grammar rules before using it. So those who know that using the prefix un- automatically reverses or removes the meaning of the word that follows will have no problem accepting ‘unlike’ in Facebook.
What happens in the transformation of languages is that meanings will forever change and be afforded new meanings according to the context. So, I think you’re absolutely right, ‘unlike’ is valid in Facebook grammar even if it is under scrutiny in English grammar.
Also, just another argument for why it should be ‘unlike’ and not ‘dislike’ – like and dislike can wrongly be assumed to mean a yes or no answer where only two choices are possible, a positive and a negative. However, what about when you want a facebook button that says you don’t just LIKE, but LOVE, or DON’T CARE about something? Such buttons are not needed as they can be included under the repertoire of ‘unlike’.
November 19, 2010 at 8:55 pm
Jane Doe
People really get their panties in a bunch over ‘facebook’. I guess I’m out of the loop. Very informative post, thanks!
November 19, 2010 at 9:00 pm
Admin
If there was a “like button” on this post, I would click it!
November 19, 2010 at 9:23 pm
Renée A. Schuls-Jacobson
I think I am in love with you.
When you matched you indefinite pronoun with a singular antecedent, I thought, OMG! I, like, so want to know this person!
Glad you were Freshly Pressed!
November 19, 2010 at 9:44 pm
Chelsea
I liked this post by rating it 5 stars.
November 19, 2010 at 9:45 pm
itsahappyblog
I rather enjoy changing my FB language preference to English-Pirate just for giggles.
November 19, 2010 at 11:11 pm
Miss Confused
Ok, so I’m NOT trying to argue with anyone here, but I’d like some clarification.
You wrote: But dislike already has a verbal meaning that would introduce ambiguity; stopping liking something is distinctly different from disliking it.
So aren’t the grammar police correct? I mean, if you don’t like farm animals wandering into your profile, then you never liked it in the first place, which means you couldn’t unlike it in the second place… right? Wrong? lol
HELP Me Please!
November 20, 2010 at 3:37 am
Richmond
I stopped using facebook two month ago.
November 20, 2010 at 5:30 am
Yusra
I was unaware as to where this post was going when I clicked on the homepage. I was all ready to hit you with the argument you just provided us. Instead, I ‘liked’ this post. =]
November 20, 2010 at 5:35 am
Yusra
@MeltingCloud; though nothing to do with your argument, I’d say that the people who have English as their 2nd language are more likely to pick up on grammatical errors than those who have it is as their First. (When you learn a language from scratch, you are taught all the grammar etc.; when you ‘learn’ it passively, growing up, you are not actively taught the grammar, you go by ‘instinct’ i.e. “This sounds wrong.” Rather than “This is wrong because xyz does not occur in English.”)
November 20, 2010 at 5:45 am
Steve
While I agree that a living language must evolve with use, I do find that the sort of change that has come through Facebook/Twitter/texting has added little to our range of expression and has served to dumb down conversation.
I find most of the new lingo doubleplus ungood!
November 20, 2010 at 6:56 am
dinnanorris
hmm…
November 20, 2010 at 8:24 am
Jambrong
Fb is the bst
November 20, 2010 at 8:55 am
Joe Rotheray
I cringe when I hear ‘the team are’ or ‘the government are’. These are references to groups of individuals. As they are references to the singular group, the correct proceeding preposition would be is. I would appreciate your comment. To my mind the error is widespread, even among those who should no better.
November 20, 2010 at 9:10 am
A.J. O'Connell
This is an excellent post. First of all, you’re right – dislike is not the same as unlike. And also, maybe I’m not being realistic, here, but I don’t believe that Facebook’s use of words like “Unlike” is worth academics and grammarians kicking up too much of a fuss. Like Friendster and Myspace before it, Facebook will have its day and fade into the ether.
November 20, 2010 at 9:19 am
Little Interpretations
Really great post :) interesting points I hadn’t thought of. Congrats on being Freshly pressed!
November 20, 2010 at 9:23 am
frabbity
excellent post! great use of the OED.
November 20, 2010 at 9:42 am
maireliath
What’s wrong with “undo” to reverse a “like” choice? Doesn’t every word processor have “undo” and “redo” icons, so everyone has already accepted those meanings? It’s unlike me to dislike “unlike” as a verb, but I do and I’d like to see it undone pronto.
November 20, 2010 at 10:36 am
ambermartingale
auntbethany: I like your ideas.
Motivated Grammar: A very interesting blog.
November 20, 2010 at 10:49 am
mybakingempire
I admit I had the same reaction to words like “unlike” and “friend” as in I want to friend this person. What about befriend. But, in the end, it’s Facebook. I will save my grammatical nitpicking tendencies for the real world.
November 20, 2010 at 11:04 am
Smaktakula
Ours is a living language (as I believe Melme said earlier). In certain instances, I think the language has grown uglier (“octopuses,” “cactuses,” “hung” for the means of execution), but many of the new additions to our language (such as unlike and unfriend) don’t bother me.
November 20, 2010 at 12:16 pm
lady1auren
It’s a pity the dimwits on both sides of this argument failed to notice that the thing being discussed is a symbolic label carrying a meaning entirely disconnected from the words they are so pedantically discussing. In this context the label LIKE means something similar to: “Click here to indicate to the wider world that you have a liking for the thing in question” and the other label means “Click here to cease to indicate to the wider world that you have a liking for the thing in question”
Whether you use “UNLIKE” , LIKE with a red cross through it, STOP, or MLONGPHTOG, for the latter label, is not a question of language or grammar: it is a matter of choosing a functionally efficient symbol for the button. Clicking the button alters your liking for the thing not one iota.
November 20, 2010 at 12:16 pm
danieljamesaraujo
It’s funny how much Facebook has impacted social life outside of its own site. Great post!
November 20, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Kathryn Leigh
I decided that I ought to experiment with the way WordPress deals with the like/unlike quandary. So I liked your post. WordPress informed me moments later that I like it. There, however, isn’t an option to unlike or dislike it. Perhaps WordPress is onto something. I am forever committed to liking this post, which could be good for all sorts of my generation’s dysfunctions. We will no longer be afraid of commitment, and we will all get married and stay married, and WordPress will single-handedly save the institution of marriage and bring back the nuclear family. :)
November 20, 2010 at 12:41 pm
eeveenator
I wish there was a “Dislike” button in addition to the like/unlike buttons. I mean, if come across something I think to be offensive, or something I just don’t like at all, I just simply wish I could express that, rather than having to comment about my dislike and then see everything else involved with that post/picture/whatever.
November 20, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Andrew
The use of unlike on facebook is wrong.
November 20, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Tonica
In Swedish (my native language) we don’t ‘unlike’ things on Facebook. Our version is to ‘stop liking’. It looks awkward in English but in Swedish it’s actually grammatically correct.
That’s ok as far as it goes, but we get horrible ‘Swenglish’ instead, so we have our issues with Facebook too, at least I do.
November 20, 2010 at 2:16 pm
jkcarillo
I feel that the word unlike is fine to be used in a social network website. Facebook has gone global and it can now be used in different languages. The word unlike I know is not a verb but is a preposition. However Facebook is not a place where the people are being graded for what they write. It’s based on actual human verbal conversations. The street lingo is different from academic lingo. Give Facebook a break for using the word unlike. It’s still in the English dictionary at least and not some made up word.
November 20, 2010 at 2:27 pm
RDM, AEZ
I never use Like buttom, prefer writing my own comments so people know what I really like
November 20, 2010 at 3:18 pm
radmazin
Who says we have to use words with accepted meanings anyway? Language was invented! So long as a word serves its purpose, then who cares what it ALREADY means. It could just as well mean something else from now on.
Excellent post.
-QG
November 20, 2010 at 3:26 pm
hamy935
A quick question, Gabe. Do you think linguists solve more problems or create more simply??
November 20, 2010 at 3:55 pm
brandifox
Today I was at denny’s and saw their placemat reading
“Un-scrooged Anyone.”
…It was advertising ice cream….
Not going to lie, I remembered this post instantly :P.
November 20, 2010 at 3:55 pm
alex h.
Intersting post; I always thought grammar was for the French complexities!…
November 20, 2010 at 4:37 pm
Brown Eyed Mystic
Hmm interesting discussion here. For some reason, I don’t find the “their” construct awkward–but hey, it’s just me!
And about “unlike”, you’re dead on. I did think it was a verb, somewhere.
Congrats on being Freshly Pressed ;) I so know the feeling.
-BrownEyed
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November 20, 2010 at 5:39 pm
juris Svilans
How about un-like??
November 20, 2010 at 5:58 pm
Tim Nichols
Love this post, and congrats on Freshly Pressed. Alex and lady1auren nailed it: the definition of “like” in the FB context is the key. In the common usage that gave rise to the FB “like” button, “like” meant “to be favorably disposed toward.”
To “like” something on FB means “to create an ongoing indication of a favorable disposition toward.” No problem there; the language expands to meet the demands of its users. The latter definition of “like” calls for some term to fit the definition “to remove one’s indication of a favorable disposition toward” — and “unlike” fits the bill.
oh, and FWIW, in case anyone from FB is paying attention over here: I add my vote to AuntBethany and battlechicken regarding the “WISH TO SMITE” button.
November 20, 2010 at 6:00 pm
Ivory Pearl Bridal Mall
OMG…RT…oh no that’s the other social media…lol..
November 20, 2010 at 6:44 pm
asyuli4211
So, ‘unfriend’ is actually proper grammar? I assume it would be if ‘friend’ is actually a verb as it is now used on facebook, but ‘friend’ is not, in my opinion, a verb. ‘Unlike’, however (as you said, is proper grammar as ‘like’ is a verb. ‘Dislike’ is an entirely seperate. You are not stating you do not like what the person is saying by pressing the ‘unlike’ button, you are mearly taking off the ‘like’ you posted on … whatever it was you liked. And, if I may digress momentarily, I have to say that even though I am partially addicted to facebook, I am also slightly annoyed by it. There are quite a variety of reasons, but the main one is, as you mentioned above, farmville. Personally, I loathe it, but my mother uses my facebook account to play farmville and she posts multiple farmville posts to coat my walls. Numerous friends comment on how I must be a farmville addict BUT IM NOT! (Sorry, had to get that out.) Anyways, speaking of grammar on facebook, I think facebook should integrate a higher level of grammar, vocabulary, etc. to it’s site. Studies show that reading advanced literature involuntarily increases your own writing and speech, and personally, I enjoy improving my own.
@dearexgirlfriend: I absolutely agree with you.
@auntbethany: I WANT A LOATHE BUTTON!!! I love that word :)
November 20, 2010 at 7:18 pm
Tim Nichols
“I will friend you, if I may, on the dark and cloudy day”
-A. E. Housman, “Terrence, this is stupid stuff”, published in _A Shropshire Lad_ in 1896
November 20, 2010 at 7:27 pm
jatimlex
The “unevelution” of proper grammar drives me crazy, however as times change we “ain’t” going to change bad behavior En masse. This is reserved for the parent and not the education system. Those of us who are older also have to “unlearn” what is or isn’t important such as txt imho.
November 21, 2010 at 12:02 am
utherdoul
I love grammar, and the various nuances of the English language have always interested me. You’ve addressed an issue I once had – the internet’s pioneering changes in language usage, spelling, et cetera – and how it didn’t conform with my traditionalist opinion of language.
Recently, however, I’ve come to realise that language needs to change to adapt to modern life and the various new usages. If Facebook forces new usages and etymologies, then where is the harm? I regularly invent new words when I speak or write, partially for a stylistic personalised rhetoric, partially because I deem some words (like the horrific awesome / awful phenomenon) are in need of updating.
Your last sentence was the perfect conclusion.
November 21, 2010 at 12:37 am
thorsaurus
Anyone who suffers from nocturnal prose addictions has spent time, probably far too much time, trying to outsmart their word processing program. Think outside the spell check tab.
November 21, 2010 at 2:51 am
Viet
I rarely use “unlike” button but also never had problems using it. Well thought blog entry xD
November 21, 2010 at 5:29 am
Abhi
this whole thing was going on in my mind from sm time, nicely put. Good 2 see this here. :) Seriously “LIKE”
November 21, 2010 at 5:32 am
Pranav Garg
I don’t think anyone should have a problem with this. Language keeps transforming and developing. Maybe Facebook has coined a new meaning for the word. Let’s take the example of the word ‘stumble’. It means to walk unsteadily. What about StumbleUpon then?
Pranav Garg
November 21, 2010 at 5:37 am
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November 21, 2010 at 6:35 am
Abby
Great post, really well written, congrats on freshly pressed!
November 21, 2010 at 6:52 am
jollof
‘unlike’ is an unusual word but Facebook is very unlikely to heed the requests of unhappy grammar-concious users to undo the grammatical damage already done. If it’s any consolation, I understand :D
November 21, 2010 at 7:44 am
Arhus
no, jollof, you don’t understand. the whole point of the post is that “unlike” is correct, and that there is no grammatical damage being done.
November 21, 2010 at 7:50 am
erakanksha
Well written…a gr8 topic of discussion… its gud 2 know tat ppl keep thr analysing n observing skills “ON”…n nt jst tym pass… dng facebooking…
November 21, 2010 at 8:57 am
neetu sharma
i like this
November 21, 2010 at 9:20 am
pridesing
Funny how there is a “like” button for this article. Good post.
November 21, 2010 at 9:29 am
thegreyyy
Personally I think the greatest crime is “congratulations on being freshly pressed.” It brings to mind a horrible mental image of being crushed and distilled into paper form. Not to mention everyone who posts a new blog could be said to be “freshly pressed” in this manner, after all, we are all counted on the page, only some are given pictures and links. Is it really that hard to say “congratulations on being featured on Freshly Pressed.” Does anyone else get annoyed with this or it is just me being a ‘pedantic f*cktard’ so to speak?
November 21, 2010 at 9:34 am
Sina Saberi
you couldn’t have possibly argued this in a better way; absolutely agree!! and thanks :)
November 21, 2010 at 11:30 am
anon.
by far your best post yet.
and anyone who disagrees is probably a pedantic f*cktard.
November 21, 2010 at 11:41 am
gmomj
I don’t dislike this post.
November 21, 2010 at 12:33 pm
kmpkmp
*like*
November 21, 2010 at 12:34 pm
Evie Garone
WOW! I am one for grammar, but in this case, I “get” it, it really is ok to be “unlike”, it is the act of un doing the like button, no?! That’s the way I see it!!!
November 21, 2010 at 12:40 pm
Kristine Hadeed
Very eloquently articulated. Were we not aware that the internet is a veritable breeding ground for new words anyway?
November 21, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Padraic Stanley
Well I definitely just “liked” this article. I loved how it was written– I love when great points are articulated intelligently.
November 21, 2010 at 2:22 pm
Mike LaMonica
Just clicked the like button for this post…cheers!
~Mike
November 21, 2010 at 2:41 pm
blondecop
likey you, a lot. xo
November 21, 2010 at 2:43 pm
nigeil
Facebook and texting are absolutely killing grammar these days and it is fairly disconcerting :(
November 21, 2010 at 3:46 pm
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November 21, 2010 at 4:11 pm
Allison
I won’t read through quite ALL the comments posted here but my opinion on the subject is that Unlike is appropriate to the situation as it deals with computers and the internet. Undo is an appropriate substitute for Unlike because Undo is a word that has become associated with computers, such as you Undo an action performed. Similar logic applies to Unlike.
Still it’s semantics and like others who have said as such, I am really glad I’ve deleted my Facebook account.
November 21, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Stephanie
@JoeRotheray “The government are” or “the team are” is correct grammar if you are British, as both are made up of multiple individuals. British English does not consider groups to be single entities.
November 21, 2010 at 9:43 pm
hezaire
well said. i will have to forward this post on to the next friend who complains about “unlike.” congrats on freshly pressed!
November 21, 2010 at 10:34 pm
sandpitdiaries
Facebook is developing Newspeak perfectly. Has anybody read 1984? As the character Syme said:
“It’s a beautiful thing, the destruction of words.”
November 21, 2010 at 11:07 pm
nikitakat
I <3 fB but yes people do need to write properly
November 22, 2010 at 2:16 am
a fool
You get txt language, now you get facebook language. All good, there’s so many languages…computer language, sign language, italian men’s hand gestures, and so on.
I don’t see why facebook shouldn’t have incorrect English, when it is facebook, not English class, when everyone understands the purpose and meaning of “unlike” anyway – in the facebook context, that is.
November 22, 2010 at 2:29 am
Decisive Decisions Marketing
Just introducing myself and my blog, High all.
Specifically @Alex, I think your forgetting the words do not, lol. To unlike is to once have like. If that pushes the boundary too much for you, simply I do not like words perfectly.
The issue here is really should people be able to not like something on someones Facebook page. This has been on people blogs for awhile. This actually has to stay as a like button.
Other companies have chosen to allow to dislike something. Once they have done this action their dynamic has changed. While it is applicable on some websites, Facebook, being directly social is not one of them. Friends can choose to verbally denounce something or not comment at all. For most people they can typically tell why one is liking their comment and there are multitude of reasons.
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November 22, 2010 at 3:14 am
Jesse
Unlike is acceptable…I’m not sure if it’s a word, but it makes sense; dislike is the opposite of like, whereas unlike is the opposite of the ACTION of liking…you get me?
November 22, 2010 at 4:32 am
Garrett McKenna
Wow! I would have thought that a blog post based on nitpicking the grammar of Facebook would have been boring, but you have a) made it interesting, and b)brought up some valid points.
If I may add to this, here in Italy, they have created a new verb just to explain the action of clicking “like” – likare!
November 22, 2010 at 5:18 am
snoringdogstudio
Even though I broke up with Facebook a few weeks ago (plz see my blog entry on that topic http://bit.ly/9hzWIR), I’m still fascinated by the language created via social networking. I wonder why, though, Facebook didn’t simply use the frown emoticon to represent “unlike.” That’s a fairly universal symbol that most people understand without having to think much about. Love your blog, btw.
November 22, 2010 at 5:22 am
randomlyabstract
love-hate feelings for facebook!So true!Oh and I never noticed this “unlike” fuss,and it seems hilarious to read that stupid mistake…and yes,most of the things mentioned in your blog bother me too-like fb posts whatever it wants on whomsoever profile!:P
November 22, 2010 at 6:04 am
onmywaytomentalhealth
It’s nice to think that some of us are actually turning to the OED for rescue. I applaud the initiative. While you’re consulting the “L” volume, can you also find a way to recuperate the very duvious ‘I’m lovin’ it’ that has been going around? :)
November 22, 2010 at 6:06 am
onmywaytomentalhealth
sorry – dubious, that is.
November 22, 2010 at 6:12 am
straightboy2k10
WHAT IS LOVE
BABY DONT HURT ME…..DONT HURT ME
NO MORE
November 22, 2010 at 9:36 am
Emily Michelle
Poor, maligned Facebook. I rather like the site, though I like it more now that I’ve blocked Farmville and Mafia Wars from getting anywhere near my profile.
This post was very interesting, especially because I wasn’t aware that people were upset about Facebook grammar. I actually rather like “friend” and “unfriend” and “unlike” as verbs, since the alternatives are lengthy: “add as friend,” “remove from friends,” “I no longer like this post but please don’t take this to mean that I actively dislike it.” Isn’t economy of language an admirable goal?
November 22, 2010 at 9:54 am
ambermartingale
Emily Michelle: It can be when we don’t get too economical.
November 22, 2010 at 10:28 am
Sunflowerdiva
This “unlike” business is really complicated….
November 23, 2010 at 5:37 am
StewieJT
I find FB great but only because I block all of the stupid application invites that I receive, which really saves a world of pain. I also block news feeds from certain ‘friends’ as we all have categories of friends, don’t we? Check out my humourous unofficial ‘friend’ classifications: http://thislittlethingcalledlife.com/2010/09/29/facebook-friends/
November 23, 2010 at 11:39 pm
Ke$haFan$Ever
Can you unpoop something?
November 25, 2010 at 12:50 am
....the little thread of thoughts
Nice post. Glad to know it’s a similar problem which has recently cropped up. Once, when I get rid of all the application requests, block unwanted groups and feeds, and skip all the ” informative notifications”…. Facebook seems usable ….but the entire process spoils the mood.
November 26, 2010 at 12:06 am
Seattle Gabe
lol @ the “unpoop” comment. so funny. lol
November 28, 2010 at 5:29 pm
Violet
If Facebook has done nothing else, at least it has prompted a grammar discussion outside the academy. Yay for that!
December 1, 2010 at 2:45 am
Robert Schmidt
Facebook isn’t the only culprit of adapting the way we talk. Just think about how a few years back if someone had said to you ”I’m going to tweet about this” you’d have no idea what the hell they were talking about.
December 2, 2010 at 9:09 am
ambermartingale
I think you’re right, Robert. Twitter, too, has also changed the way we talk.
December 6, 2010 at 5:18 am
zfarlinda
new knowledge for me, thank you
December 10, 2010 at 3:06 am
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December 10, 2010 at 9:25 am
kelliefish13
I don’t know if facebook is actually changing the way we write/speak as much as made it more public and accessible, so now more people can see how ignorant we are.
I have found I have learnt more about grammar from the internet, via blogs and links shared on facebook, than I would have from any other media (and I read a lot of books). This is because I am frequently reminded about it, this does not however mean that I have mastered it.
As someone who found learning spelling one of my biggest challenges in school, I found that switching my phone onto predictive and having spell checker on means that when I make a mistake is it bought to my attention immediately and gave me away to correct it, without spending ages looking in a dictionary.
Not everyone has the same level of education, parental influence, and even intelligence that some of the so call grammar police have had. Must we always be so harsh on those around us? Companies are different, but surely there is more important things to debate than the use of unlike.
March 17, 2013 at 6:29 pm
kathy
Thanks for your explanation. My friends and I had an argument about this, but when I show your post to them. They agreed. Thanks again.
December 14, 2013 at 1:00 am
rickla
A more significant debate surrounding “dis-” and “un-” would concern “uninterested” and “disinterested”. In British journalism, “disinterested” seems to have replaced “uninterested”, erasing any systematic distinction between them. I suppose any journalist who really wanted to get the traditional “disinterested” meaning across could just say “unbiased”, but it means that there are occasions where someone writes or says “disinterested” and you’re really not sure which they mean.
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