“Poisonous—often confused with venomous—means a plant, animal, or substance capable of causing death or illness if taken into the body. Venomous means capable of injecting venom. A rattlesnake is not itself poisonous, because if you eat one it won’t poison you. A blowfish will kill you if you eat it, so it is poisonous, but not venomous.”
This is number six in Laura Hale Brockway’s list of “8 words that may not mean what you think they mean” on PR Daily. And it’s true that poisonous may not mean what you think it means, but this also implies that it may mean exactly what you think it means, and as it turns out, it does.
Though this was the first time I heard this complaint, it turns out to be mildly common. Paul Brians mentions it in his common errors — in fact, Brockway seems to have lifted half of her complaint from his. You can find a number of other online objectors, of course, but it’s uncommon in printed usage guides; of the seven within my reach at the moment, only Ambrose Bierce’s Write It Right complains about poisonous.
Conveniently, my edition of Write it Right is Jan Freeman’s excellent centennial edition, which means that each of Bierce’s complaints is accompanied by her research into it. About this issue, she writes:
“As usual, Bierce would like to fence the overlapping words into separate pens. But while venomous does describe rattlesnakes and other animals that poison victims with a bite or sting, poisonous has always been a broader term. Samuel Johnson knew both words, but in his Dictionary (1755) he referred to ‘a poisonous serpent,’ ‘a poisonous insect,’ and ‘a poisonous reptile.'”
It’s not just Johnson, either. The Oxford English Dictionary cites The Indian Queen, a play by Robert Howard and John Dryden (he of “no final prepositions” fame), with “poisonous Vipers” in 1665. Google Books can supply you a vast array of hits for “poisonous snakes” from the 1800s, if you need convincing of the lineage. Here’s my favorite, as it’s very clearly talking about snakes with venomous bites; it’s written by someone studying the venom of the snakes, so this isn’t some casual imprecise usage but the considered usage of a professional; and it’s from 1839, so there’s no arguing that this is some sloppy modern usage.
In short, the two words do not have distinct meanings; rather, one has a subset of the other’s. This is common in English; I’ve previously written about jealousy/envy, verbal/oral, and compose/comprise, all of which display this to some degree.
In the case of venomous and poisonous, this oughtn’t to be surprising, as their stems have this same relationship. A venom is one kind of poison, and similarly, being venomous is one way that an animal can be poisonous. The biggest clue that we aren’t all wrong for using poisonous in place of venomous is that it’s very rare to see the opposite extension. When people talk about “venomous plants”, for instance, they’re usually talking about plants that literally do sting, like stinging nettles or the gympie gympie. If people are just stupid or underinformed, they ought to make their errors symmetrically; here, the supposed error really only goes one way. (I’d expect asymmetric errors if one were much rarer than the other, but venomous isn’t particularly rare.)
So poisonous and venomous overlap in general usage, and I’m having trouble seeing why anyone would expect or even want them to be separated. The only situation where it would potentially be worth having distinct definitions is if you’re regularly dealing with things that contain poisons delivered by different methods. But if that’s the goal, poisonous and venomous don’t supply enough categories. Having poisonous describing anything but venomous is just strange, given that it doesn’t make presumably critical distinctions between the poisoning methods of, say, tree frogs (touch) and pufferfish (ingestion).
Summary: Poisonous and venomous aren’t totally distinct. It’s fine to call a snake poisonous, even if it’s its venom that’s dangerous. But it’s rare (and generally incorrect) to call something with a non-venom poison venomous. This is how it has been for hundreds of years in English. Objections to the subset relationship between poisonous and venomous are pretty rare, and outside of specialized contexts, pretty unfounded.
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September 23, 2013 at 1:12 pm
Allen
I looked at that article–half of them are tired old peeves. But I was surprised by the authority they use for saying “unique” is absolute and can’t be modified, since that link, the Oxford Dictionaries, says it can be and is grammatically acceptable.
“They don’t mean what you think they mean” would be a good reply.
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Also, on the subject of non-venom poison that is called “venomous”, I did come across one example in the corpus of literature I keep on my computer, namely Izaak Walton’s wonderful “Complete Angler”:
“And it is observed, that the Pike will eat venomous things (as some kind of Frogs are) and yet live without being harmed by them”
and then a little later on:
“Viat.: But, good Master, did not you say even now, that some Frogs were venomous, and is it not dangerous to touch them?”
There were a couple of other hits in 17c works, but it seems to be rarer later on, perhaps as the meanings settled down.
“Venomous” appears to be used just as frequently in a figurative sense, going back to Chaucer. Most of the matches for “poisonous” or “poison” seem to be literal.
September 23, 2013 at 2:34 pm
John Cowan
This is a classic D & D incident:
Dungeon Master: “You see a snake approaching fast.”
Wizard: “I test it for poison.”
Dungeon Master: “It’s not poisonous.”
Wizard: “I ignore it.”
Dungeon Master: “It bites you and [rolls dice] you die.”
Wizard: “Whaaaat? You said it’s not poisonous!”
Dungeon Master: “True, but it is venomous.”
September 23, 2013 at 4:14 pm
mike
Someone who insists on “venomous” referring only to a delivery method would need to then write about a “venom pen letter,” right?
September 24, 2013 at 3:56 am
Stan
I’m having trouble seeing why anyone would expect or even want them to be separated.
Because uninformed pedants want to impose their desire for neatness and simplicity on the world at large, without researching the matter properly or thinking it through or acknowledging the existence of acceptable levels of complexity and contradiction? (I say this as someone who was an uninformed pedant in my youth.)
September 24, 2013 at 9:55 am
Paul Rafferty
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October 20, 2013 at 4:10 am
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October 21, 2013 at 1:57 pm
fenambulist
Let’s have an end to this toxic pedantry.
June 27, 2014 at 8:44 am
Kimberly Moynahan (@Kim_Moynahan)
My take …
http://kimberlymoynahan.com/2014/06/friday-fiction-facts-poison-or-venom-its-all-in-the-delivery/
August 18, 2014 at 9:44 am
José Manuel Campos Noguera
Thanks for sharing..
September 16, 2014 at 1:10 am
John Wilson
This is pretty silly. It is 100% correct to use the term “poisonous snake”. Venom is poison so according to the laws of logic and common everyday sense, a snake can be poisonous. All one has to do is look up the word poisonous and they will see that it’s correct to use when talking about anything that has venom. Also they claim that “venomous” should be used because snakes inject their poison. Well not all snakes only inject. There are cobras that will spit it’s poison at enemies if it can’t reach them.
The only people that really want to claim that “poisonous snakes” is incorrect are particularly anal retentive people. They love to correct people like they know so much. Well the person who wrote this article has no clue about the correct use of the term poisonous.
June 21, 2015 at 9:28 am
Tony Ford
A venomous animal INJECTS the toxic substance into the body of another animal. A poisonous animal has a toxin that must be eaten to have an effect. You can eat all the rattlesnakes you want and not die. In fact, carnival workers at snake shows used to prove they couldn’t be killed by drinking snake venom (won’t affect you at all unless you have cuts in your mouth or perhaps bleeding ulcers which would allow the venom to enter your bloodstream). And even spitting cobras is a misnomer — snakes don’t spit at all. The fangs of cobras like ringhals or red spitting cobras actually have a modified opening to allow the snake to open its mouth slightly and to squirt the venom at the animal that is offending it. Cobra venom enters the bloodstream through the tiny veins in one’s eyes, which are easily ruptured and have thin walls. It can squirt venom all over you anywhere else and have no effect on you at all.
In short, while it may comfort you to think that it’s “100% correct to use the term ‘poisonous snake’ ” because YOU have always done so, snakes are NOT poisonous.
October 19, 2015 at 4:19 pm
chaplainTC
Words are used for communication. The goal of communication is to have content be understood to the maximum. Therefore, if one descriptive term is more specific or used within a certain context that term would be best. In most contemporary biological forums you will find venomous used when describing flora or fauna that inject their toxic substance whereas poisonous would be used for ingestion, absorption or inhalation.
If the context were literary rather than scientific the term is fairly interchangeable. Ex. “His words were venomous/poisonous to her ears…”
Tony Ford is correct. There is a best use practice. Calling a snake poisonous would not likely be accepted in contemporary peer review journals in any form. The term may be technically correct, however, best choice is the more definitive. There is a snake in Asia that secrets a toxic substance on its skin (poisonous) and a frog in South America that has spines that inject a toxic substance (venom). In biological terms the method of delivery matters.
October 19, 2015 at 8:03 pm
captherp
So a whole bunch of writers in the past didn’t know the difference. .. just because a lot of people use the words incorrectly doesn’t make poisonous the same as venomous. Comet Cleanser is poisonous. Arsenic is poisonous. Poison arrow frogs are poisonous. If you put them in your mouth bad things will happen. You can eat rattlesnakes, cobras, mambas, etc., but you won’t die from doing it. I’m a teacher now, but in the past I worked as a herpetologist at the Phoenix Zoo and Steinhart Aquarium in San Francisco. No herpetologist worth their salt would EVER agree that the words are synonyms, regardless of how many people say they are. The herd instinct in language, in which people all start pronouncing things the same way, or saying “You say poisonous, I say venomous, no big deal either way as long as we don’t seem fussy or different,” does not suddenly change the words. It just means there’s one more person that uses the words wrong.