I know it’s become common over these last few posts for me to discuss etymological fallacies, but that’s only because they’re so easy to disprove. They’re like a little vacation for me, a pathetic little vacation I take without moving from in front of my computer.
The current etymologically-motivated complaint I’ve grown tired of is the claim that you can’t say center around. This one’s fun because it involves geometry. (I must confess that I never actually took a geometry class. Instead, I took topology, which is sort of like geometry where the entire world is made of infinitely flexible rubber. This is why I can think of geometry as fun.)
Suppose you have a circle O. The circle gets its name from its center, O, so you might want to say that the circle O is centered at point O. But at the same time, the circle is located all around point O, so I can’t see anything unreasonable in saying that the circle is centered around point O either.
Other people, though, can. And they do. I especially like the exhortation of that last link:
“How can you center around anything? You cannot. You can center on or focus on something, but not around it. Think about it!”
So I started to think about it. And try as I might, I couldn’t see how you could center on something. Take, for instance, that king of three-dimensional objects, the sphere. Suppose the sphere X is on point O. Then the sphere X must be above point O, by the definition of on. To have point O as its center, sphere X must extend equally in all directions from point O. (More generally, point O must be the average of all points in object X.) But it can only be the case that X is on O and X has O as its center if X is an impossibly droopy sphere; otherwise the center of X will have to be above O. Even if we move beyond spheres, it’s really only inverted bowl-type mathematical objects that could rest on their own centers. So really, isn’t center on illogical, too? Oughtn’t it to be center at?*
Please tell me you’re thinking that this discussion is really stupid. It is, isn’t it? After all, if geometric logic really determined the proper choice of preposition in an idiomatic construction, we’d all be saying that this debate centers at a contentious point. And of course, we don’t. The Google n-gram corpus has 4858 examples of “debate centers on” and 1763 of “debate centers around”, but does not have a single attestation of “debate centers at” in a trillion words. Language isn’t geometry, and there is no reason to try to make it so. As the Merriam-Webster Dictionary of English Usage (MWDEU) puts it, “[…] questionable or sound, logic is simply not the point. Center around is a standard idiom […]”
So let’s stop dismissing center around out-of-hand for “logical” reasons and look at it dispassionately. How standard of an idiom is it? Well, it’s a fairly old construction; the OED first attests it in 1868 in Edward Freeman‘s solidly scholarly The History of the Norman Conquest:
(1) “It is around the King..that the main storm of battle is made to centre.”
Google Books has some even older attestations:
(2a) “Clouds of deep crimson centered around him, and one would think, by the glory of his parting, he was loath to deprive the earth of her light […]” [1824]
(2b) “[…] I occasionally acted as chaperon to Miss Jameson, but as my hopes centered more trustfully around one object, my taste for general society diminished […]” [1840]
(2c) “His thoughts returned to Miss Percival; his hopes again centered around her.” [1840]
Is center on any older? Not much. The OED’s first attestation of center on comes from 1789, but this usage is based on the obsolete definition “to converge on”. If we don’t accept that example because of the (subtle) difference in meaning, the next attestation is in 1867. That puts it contemporaneous with the first attestation of center around. Google Books has some older attestations, although they might fit better with the “converge on” meaning:
(3a) “Our hope centered on God in Christ, and our hearts ready to leave the world.” [1775]
(3b) “Had it centered on a monarch, it would have given the means of a vigorous and healthy government; but it never centered on a monarch.” [1834]
MWDEU notes that up through the 19th century, in was the primary idiomatic preposition used with center, alongside a smattering of on, upon, and around. More recent usage has shifted these proportions, with on and around taking precedence in American English and round frequent in British English. (in has really fallen by the wayside.) And between the emergence of center around and grammarians’ first complaints about it in the 1920s, no one seems to have thought it illogical. I guess they just weren’t as good at geometry back then.
Summary: There’s nothing illogical about center around, at least nothing inconsistent with the logic of language. (And center on isn’t a paragon of logic itself.) Regardless of the question of logic, center around has been around for 150 years, and there’s no reason to ditch it now.
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*: And while we’re at it, why are prescriptivists willing to accept center as a verb in the first place? Don’t they know the verb center comes from the noun center? I thought they hated all the bastard verbs that come from nouns, like access.
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April 8, 2010 at 10:53 am
mike
I read a debate not long ago concerning a brochure that said:
“Surrounding the hotel are popular Seattle attractions such as Pike Place Market, the Space Needle, Safeco Park, home of baseball’s Seattle Mariners, and Qwest Field, home of football’s Seattle Seahawks, all just a short drive away.”
And that this was not correct because these attractions “all lie in the same direction and subtend a total of twelve degrees of arc. This is a sense of the word ‘surround’ I was previously unfamiliar with.” [http://blogs.msdn.com/oldnewthing/archive/2009/09/23/9898231.aspx]
Seems like a similar issue, namely applying strict geometric definitions to language.
April 8, 2010 at 11:09 am
Gabe
That’s a really interesting example, because the idea of “surrounding” covering only 12 degrees doesn’t bother me much on its own, but I don’t understand how you can say that “surrounding” is at all appropriate for the relationship between four downtown Seattle attractions and a hotel in Factoria, with a giant lake in between. When I read the sentence, I assumed that the hotel was probably in Downtown or maybe Queen Anne, the International District, or Montlake, but definitely not anywhere near Bellevue. Man, I miss Seattle.
Funnily enough, this seems to be the exact point raised in the comments by someone named “Gabe” who is not me.
April 8, 2010 at 12:19 pm
Bill S.
>> And while we’re at it, why are prescriptivists willing to accept center as a verb in the first place? <<
That's an easy one: 'center' (v.) has a null derivatational suffix bearing the feature , but ‘access’ does not. Alas, only enlightened grammarians can detect the suffix — but that’s just a performance consideration.
[[More seriously though — I suspect it’s because a lot of us grew up with “center” as a verb, and it wasn’t flagged as a shibboleth by K-12 teachers. I think ‘access’ being used as a verb is more recent (or rather, its frequency has been climbing more recently), and there’s a sizable chunk of the population that therefore puts it in the “darn young people” bin.]]
April 8, 2010 at 12:35 pm
4ndyman
Not to sound like your hypothetical prescriptivists, but I really don’t like “center [prep.]” as a verb. Just the lonely word “center” works great on its own — we center text all the time, meaning we place it equidistant and directly between two points. But that leads to whether the text, for example, is centered on, to, or between the margins.
There are so many more enjoyable ways to write a description besides using “centered [prep.]” that one needn’t even stress over it. Or stress on it. Or stress about it.
As for the Seattle “surrounding” situation, consider the writer’s purposes before you consider the sentence’s logic. Because of the us of “such as,” it’s obviously not a complete list. The fact that the author lists only some of the more well-known and (relatively) nearby places doesn’t eliminate the fact that the hotel is surrounded by “popular Seattle attractions.” (Is it, though? I’ve never been to Seattle.)
The author might very well have written
“Surrounding the hotel are the Pike Place Market, the Space Needle, Safeco Field, Qwest Field, and a whole mess of other other places that you’ve likely never heard of but that are popular with tourists and townies alike, all just a short drive away.”
This, however, uses more words to convey less information, which is generally not considered good copywriting.
April 8, 2010 at 7:48 pm
Vance
There’s nothing illogical about center around, at least nothing consistent with the logic of language.
I think you mean “nothing inconsistent” there.
4ndyman, I don’t share your dislike of “center on” or e.g. “center over”. There are cases where one of these can be an effective shorthand for a geometrical concept.
In any case, such aesthetic judgments, if we can’t justify them with evidence from usage, should be applied only personally — to our personal judgment of others’ style, or as a guide for our own choices in writing. I feel a subtle distinction in sense between “center on” and “center around”, but I can’t think of a clear case where one would work and the other wouldn’t.
April 9, 2010 at 4:14 am
Cecily
Wow. I already knew that this was a common gripe, but I read the third link and in reply to one of the comments, the blogger John Scalzi wrote:
“The OED ain’t no grammar guide, and if it is, then it sucks, because it’s wrong in this case. And, apparently, has been wrong since 1868.”
You can’t really argue with someone that determined to stick to their own view.
(Comment #20 at http://whatever.scalzi.com/2009/08/24/todays-grammar-gripe-seemingly-out-of-nowhere/#comments)
April 9, 2010 at 12:52 pm
David Teague
You say, “… Then the sphere X must be above point O, by the definition of on. ” Please give the definition YOU are using for “on”. You sound a bit like Bill Clinton, when he was parsing “is”. Just as you say, a sphere is centered AT its center point, but it is also said to be ON its center. While I wouldn’t say your argument is stupid, I don’t much like it. I would say it is a bit pedantic.
April 12, 2010 at 5:14 pm
The Ridger
I believe Gabe’s using “on” by visualizing the surface of the sphere as the only part of it that can be “at” a point.
May 26, 2010 at 10:27 pm
Daniel
I disagree completely but respectfully with the article.
Simply, a centre is a point, so nothing can “centre around” anything. We can “revolve around” if you wish, but “centre around” absolutely is illogical.
The verb “centre” in the subject case means to focus or to bring a focus to bring. These are all points. A centre is a point.
It seems clear to me. “Centre on” (or “centre at”) fits, and “centre around” doesn’t.
May 26, 2010 at 10:28 pm
Daniel
My third paragraph meant to finish with “to bring a focus to the centre”. :(
May 27, 2010 at 7:02 am
goofy
Daniel, yes in math a centre is a point, but we’re talking about the verb, not the noun. According to the OED, the verb “centre” can mean “to gather or collect as round a centre; to be placed as at a centre; to move or turn round as a centre”.
June 5, 2010 at 10:54 am
Gabe
4ndyman: The geographic problem is a little hard to explain, but basically the city of Seattle is located on an isthmus between Elliott Bay and Lake Washington. All of its major tourist attractions are located more or less in the middle of this isthmus. To get from them to the hotel is a fairly substantial drive (probably at least 20 minutes). So it’s not really surrounded in terms of “the attractions are in the hotel’s surroundings” sense, and it’s not really surrounded in the “Seattle attractions form a ring around the hotel” sense either.
Vance: Thanks for catching that and saving me from playing the fool any longer than necessary.
Cecily: I couldn’t agree more.
David: I mean “on” in the sense of “the book is on the table.” Obviously, there are many different definitions of “on”, but someone who won’t accept the idea that “center around” is valid because that’s not the right definition of “around” shouldn’t accept “on” because there is a valid definition of it somewhere.
April 19, 2011 at 8:24 pm
Paul
I dont mind the usage either way, but I find the spelling difference interesting.
“CentRE” comes from the Latin Root Centr (Centrum) meaning middle of something.
Where “CentER” has its root in CENT (Centum) meaning 100.
Its interesting that only “Center / Centre” changes & all the other variations of the word use centr
central, centric, centrifugal, centriole, centrum
April 19, 2011 at 9:57 pm
dw
@Paul:
“center” has nothing to do with Latin centum (100).
Both “center” and “centre” come via French centre and Latin centrum from Greek kentron, meaning a stick placed in the ground.
“centre” is the more etymological spelling, while “center” reflects the English pronunciation better. Both spellings go back centuries.
January 10, 2012 at 12:41 pm
Isaac James Bishara
the centre of this argument is pointless
the circumference of this point is centerless