I became aware of the Society Against Grammatical Boobery in the same way as I’ve learned about everything important over the last year: Twitter. I have good news for all of you for whom the Queen’s English Society has grown stale, and that’s that the SAGB follows in their footsteps of over-reactions to minor grammatical errors and a staunch belief that their personal opinions ought to shape your English, but adds the word boob over and over again to keep it fresh.
![BooberyLogo1 [SAGB Logo]](http://motivatedgrammar.files.wordpress.com/2011/12/booberylogo1.png?w=490)
But dang, they do have a good logo.
By way of introduction, I’ll offer up a few of the complaints from their “Booberies” section, along with my thoughts on them. Let’s start with their condemnation of “inappropriate” commas in this caption on a New York Times article:
“Tyler, the Creator, of Odd Future, at the Coachella music festival in Indio, Calif., last month. His new album, “Goblin,” will be released this coming Tuesday.”
Not one of those commas is incorrect. Tyler, the Creator is the stage name of Tyler Okonma, and the name contains the comma. of Odd Future is a non-restrictive prepositional phrase, so it should be offset from the rest of the sentence by commas. Cities and states are separated by commas, and states are followed by commas in most newspaper styles I know. “Goblin” is another non-restrictive modifier, so that needs its surrounding commas as well. Sure, the caption might look nicer if it were reworked to require fewer commas, but as it stands, I wouldn’t remove a single one.
Let’s move on to this complaint against a whole ‘nother:
“Some people speak a whole ‘nother language! ‘Whole’ is not an infix.”
An infix is an affix that is inserted into a word stem instead of being attached to the beginning (i.e., prefixes) or end (i.e., suffixes). An example is the Tagalog infix -um-, which is inserted after the initial consonant or consonant cluster. Thus the word sulat becomes sumulat.*
Formal English has no infixes, but colloquial Englishes do have some things that are either infixes or like infixes. A prime example of it comes in the Australian poem “Tumba Bloody Rumba”, which takes its name from the town of Tumbarumba. The full poem is available here as a video, or here as text, and in both cases the word bloody is inserted into words such as kangaroos, meself, and enough. American English has this as well, with such uses as the non-profane Ned Flanders’ diddly or the quite profane abso-fucking-lutely. Or, as one with any familiarity with homey American English would surely be aware, a whole nother.
Whole does not appear to be a productive infix like Tagalog’s -um-, by which I mean that whole doesn’t get infixed to words other than another. As such, it may be better described as an instance of tmesis, a literary device wherein one word is inserted into another, rather than a true infix. Nevertheless, the idiom a whole nother has existed for at least a century. It’s a casual usage, sure, but it’s not noteworthy, and certainly not cringeworthy.**
The rest of my objections can be lumped together under the heading of “treating their opinions in debatable matters as gospel truth”, much the same thing we all had a laugh at the Queen’s English Society for doing. They admonish Oprah Winfrey for not using the serial comma. They refuse to accept apostrophe-s for plurals of acronyms/initialisms/individual letters. And boy, do they ever have a thing against comma splices, even when used judiciously.
All in all, it’s a site that alternates between suggesting people are boobs for making minor errors and suggesting people are boobs for having made different choices than the SAGB did. Pretty much the same boring griping schtick as always, with the only distinguishing characteristic being their obsession with the word boob, an eccentricity that gets tiresome pretty quickly.
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*: More on this infixation as an open issue in Optimality Theory is available in this article [PDF, $] if you want to go further down the phonological rabbit-hole.
**: Or, as the SAGB puts it, “booberific”.



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December 1, 2011 at 11:02 am
mike
I don’t suppose there’s much hope, ever, of getting people to separate the idea of/rules of/opinions about/mistakes in punctuation and actual, real grammar.
December 1, 2011 at 11:09 am
Vance Maverick
Presumably the use of “boob” is a reference to Mencken (not that anything you write here tempts me to investigate). Grr.
December 1, 2011 at 11:51 am
Emily Michelle
I do rather like that logo; it almost makes me sorry that I disagree with their cause. Anyway, thanks for teaching me about infixes.
December 1, 2011 at 1:06 pm
johnwcowan
So I looked at the current set of Featured Booberies, and here’s what I found:
Apostrophe before plural s in C.E.O.’s, 80′s. I myself would write CEOs, 80s, but certainly the older style the Times still uses is perfectly fine. 2 meta-booberies, 0 booberies.
Commas in What happens in Vegas, stays in Vegas , What makes a Subaru, a Subaru, and But, seriously. These are rhetorical rather than structural punctuation, and I wouldn’t use them either, but again, perfectly correct usage. 3 meta-booberies, 0 booberies.
Sentence fragments In short, writing that should be proofread before being presented to the public and Just a little one. Fine device, sentence fragments. Especially if not overused. 2 meta-booberies, 0 booberies.
Alleged sentence fragment Or even more complex if there is something like: We were with my friend, a swimmer and a hiker. Presumably the meta-boob calls this a sentence fragment because he benightedly thinks sentences can’t begin with coordinating conjunctions. 1 meta-boobery, 0 booberies.
Alleged missing commas in I was taught to put the comma but I don’t think it’s totally necessary, I’ve never heard that example but I love it, and Unfortunately I’m a comma abuser and you’re now an enabler. While this style is more British than American, all of them are short enough not to absolutely require commas for clarity. 3 meta-booberies, 0 booberies.
Use of friend’s for friends’. 0 meta-booberies, 1 boobery.
Use of old fashioned instead of old-fashioned. 0 meta-booberies, 1 boobery.
Comma in a coordination with only two elements: Mignon was a magazine and technical writer, and an entrepreneur. 0 meta-booberies, 1 boobery.
Missing Oxford comma in I’m also having a renewed love affair with full stops, exclamation points and commas in general. I personally would rather undergo waterboarding than omit an Oxford comma (not really, but it sounds good), but there’s nothing mandatory about them. 1 meta-boobery, 0 booberies.
Comma splice and alleged missing but also in It’s not only a date, it’s an imperative. I’ve doubled the penalty against the first one, because the meta-boob actually cites the Caesar counterexample and then (meta-splitting a meta-hair) actually has the gall to claim that these clauses are too long for commas. Forsooth. Not only … but also is a nice parallel construction, but it’s certainly not the only “completely correct” form, as the meta-boob claims: not only A, B and not only A but B are just fine. 3 meta-booberies, 0 booberies.
Grand total: 15 meta-booberies, 3 booberies. Pretty pathetic (another sentence fragment).
December 2, 2011 at 5:27 am
kalyan brata das
Nice post and readable, I would say. It’s true that the society doesn’t follow grammar rules. As per their convenience they make it. They hardly bother to use it correctly.
December 2, 2011 at 4:08 pm
Rilian
So they think it should be “It’s not just wrong it’s illegal”, with no punctuation? Except a period, I presume. What in the fuck are they talking about? There’s two verbs there! They have to be separated somehow.! I supposed you could use a semi-colon or a dash? I don’t know, but comma makes the most sense to me.
December 2, 2011 at 4:57 pm
David Craig
Just a quick data point on ‘a whole nother’. I have heard the expression ‘an entire nother’ in the wild.
December 3, 2011 at 9:25 am
The Ridger
Rilian, I’m sure they think it should be a semicolon. But the sides don’t have the heft for that, in my opinion – they’re too closely related. Comma splices are not automatically evil.
December 3, 2011 at 6:59 pm
TheSAGB
johnwcowan —
The “meta-boob” here! I love that! But you really missed the point of the featured boobery that is the subject of the vast majority of your criticism here. The point was to highlight the hilarious disjunction of content and form — an old-fashioned grammar lover punctuating badly; a comma “abuser” not even using commas where they would be logical and appropriate, let alone abusing them; an Oxford comma lover not using one in the very sentence she announces her love; the grammar day people not using a colon where it really would have popped and added to their dramatic slogan …. Do you get it now?
We aren’t anti-fragment by default. We’re not even super anti-splicing (although since there are so many other significant ways to conjoin independent clauses, commas seem the least meaningful).
I do believe you are taking us more seriously than we take ourselves. Or maybe you didn’t read the part about frolicking through grammar fields and punctuation meadows?
December 3, 2011 at 7:30 pm
TheSAGB
Oh — but we do take ourselves seriously enough to take offense to the presumed association with Mencken. Our reference to “boob” is the meaning of the word as found in the dictionary …. not to the man. We don’t appreciate the presumed anti-Semitic association. Presumption is rather boob-y…
C’est tout!
December 5, 2011 at 10:27 am
Richard Hershberger
Look at the dates of the posts. This “society” is merely a poorly organized blog with only sporadic posts, the pretentiousness of having a “president” notwithstanding.
December 5, 2011 at 3:09 pm
johnwcowan
Mencken was no antisemite, so you need feel no offense.
December 23, 2011 at 10:47 am
rarson
Even if he was, that wouldn’t discredit any of his other ideas. Besides, it’s pretty presumptuous to assume that someone is accusing you of antisemitism by simply assuming a reference to Mencken.